Kelly Macias, staff writer for Daily Kos, and James Arkin, congressional reporter for RealClearPolitics, discuss the release of the Democratic counter memo in response to the Republican memo released weeks earlier.

Arkin notes that the Democrats' memo refuted many points in the Republican memo that aimed to discredit the FBI. Asked whether these memos will have any impact on the Russia investigation, he said only when it comes to public opinion and perception.

Macias discusses some of the rhetoric surrounding the new memo and whether it's a "nothing burger," as many have called it. We also talk about special counsel Robert Mueller's latest indictments and whether they bring him any closer to President Trump.